Wonderful Land glitch

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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby bor64 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:46 pm

If they could have done that at the beginning....we had a The Shadows at their very best for about 60 years ago.
No, I love the shads as they where, have been, are and will be.
The magic was there and "stayed" in the past, The charm was there too in 70's-80's and 00's.

Nowadays tracks are sometimes overproduced for some "artist" who can't sing 3 notes in a row in tune, in time etc.
A decent HI-FI.....no MP3 via Blue Tooth, that's the modern norm for the most part of the young consumer-market.
My nephews looked and ROFLOL .... 78,45,33, Tape Reel,Multi Track , cassette,VHS,DAT, Mini-Disk,Laser Disk,CD, DVD Blu-Ray???? oh Thank god you've HD's too....

I reckon sounds familiar by most of us?

Cheers Rob
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby flingal64 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:44 pm

I cannot hear these glitches you talk about, but then, I am not a guitarist or have this
ear to hear this minor things, I just love The Shadows, but, since this has come up here,
then I want to ask you about 'Stars Fell On Stockton' . After 25 second, is there some glitch,
or...
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby Iain Purdon » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:21 am

flingal64 wrote: I want to ask you about 'Stars Fell On Stockton' . After 25 second, is there some glitch,
or...

Yes at 23" there is a fluffed lead guitar note. And there are oddities in the bass line at times, effective though it is. But, as many have already said, this is part of the magic of recordings made in those times. You are hearing a real performance in real time, captured for posterity. It's got energy and skill. It doesn't offer perfection, it offers the excitement of live music making and reminds us how darned good the Shadows were.
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby MeBHank » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:37 pm

MikeAB wrote:All good stuff - could notes actually be 'dropped in' anyway in 1961/2?

Mike

Simple overdubs were certainly possible. Think of the added bits layered onto Wonderful Land or the last note of Man of Mystery.
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby Fenderman » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:38 pm

remember they were using 2 track until late 1963 so they were limited to how much they could add, you could 'bounce down' the tracks to free up one but you would lose sound quality.
Not sure The Shadows ever used this technique but i know The Beatles certainly did, frequently after 1965.
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby JimN » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:06 am

MeBHank wrote:
MikeAB wrote:All good stuff - could notes actually be 'dropped in' anyway in 1961/2?

Mike

Simple overdubs were certainly possible. Think of the added bits layered onto Wonderful Land or the last note of Man of Mystery.


The last note / chord of Man Of Mystery is an edit rather than an overdub. There is no reverb tail on the ensemble-recorded basic track; it ends with what in the movies or TV they'd call a smash edit.
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Re: Wonderful Land glitch

Postby MeBHank » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:54 pm

JimN wrote:The last note / chord of Man Of Mystery is an edit rather than an overdub. There is no reverb tail on the ensemble-recorded basic track; it ends with what in the movies or TV they'd call a smash edit.

I'd always been so concerned with trying to emulate the pick technique and sound that I'd not noticed that. It now makes sense to me as to why there's not even a snare hit alongside Hank's last note/chord as happens with the second one at the start of the recording (a feature most people haven't noticed or ever tried to replicate - not even The Shadows did it!).
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