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Re: The Boys

Postby Iain Purdon » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:01 pm

JimN wrote:
Iain Purdon wrote:Would critics of the “watered down” sound put The Boys into that category?

No.

The Boys was often described as an FBI clone. In fact, it was a fair bit more aggressive than FBI (and better for that reason, in my opinion).


I am glad you agree on The Boys because it shows that changing the drummer and bass guitarist did not prevent the group from being aggressive when it wanted to be.

It seems to me that the key to the "sound" lies in the lead guitar and in the material chosen. Hank could have played his guitar on, say, Dance On the way he did on the hard-edged hits of earlier. But he didn't. Who knows why? Also, you can't keep recording the same tunes, which begs the question whether it was actually possible to keep things as they had been with the new material? They were still playing the old hits on stage with every bit as much gusto, however!

I don't personally like Foot Tapper much, by the way! My point about it being the peak of their achievement was that, with the Beatles et al nipping at their heels, they still managed to get a Number One hit with it and, unlike their previous chart toppers, they had written it themselves. So in terms of return on the investment they have every reason to be particularly proud of it.

I am not saying it is their best work, however. That's an entirely different question!
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Re: The Boys

Postby StuartD » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:21 am

Hi

Changing the drummer did not water down anything. You only have to listen to the tracks from the Paris Olympia in early 62 to realise that. Shadoogie, Kon Tiki, Shazam, Frightened City etc are, for me, the best those tracks were ever played. Great lead guitar sound, tight band with so much energy and the drumming is awesome.

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Re: The Boys

Postby Iain Purdon » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:09 pm

I'm aware of the Kingston live recording from 1962 but not of the Paris one. Where is it available?
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Re: The Boys

Postby StuartD » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:23 pm

HI

I have them somewhere.

I'll have a look when I get home. I have some on MP3. They are very good

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Re: The Boys

Postby StuartD » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:29 pm

Hi Iain

This is a link to Kon Tiki. The album says September, and some of the tracks are, but most of them are from the earlier visit. I think you can tell it's Jet on bass!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRofp9e-41U

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Re: The Boys

Postby JimN » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:43 pm

That'll be the 2CD release "Just About As Good As It Gets", I think.

Tracks:

Disc 1 (* = mono):

1. FBI (true stereo)
2. Quatermasster's Stores
3. Shadoogie *
4. The Stranger
5. Apache *
6. Man Of Mystery
7. Shotgun
8. Baby My Heart * (v)
9. 36-24-36
10. Kon-Tiki
11. Midnight *
12. Stand Up And Say That *
13. Feelin' Fine * (v) (as The Drifters)
14. Mustang
15. Nivram *
16. Bongo Blues
17. Driftin' *
18. Back Home
19. The Frightened City
20. Theme from Shane
21. Big Boy *
22. Peace Pipe
23. Gonzales *
24. Jet Black * (as The Drifters)
25. Saturday Dance * (v)
26. Chinchilla * (as The Drifters)
27. Theme from Giant
28. Blue Star *
29. Don't Be a Fool (with love) * (v) (as The Drifters)
30. Find Me A Golden Street *
31. Lonesome Fella * (v)
32. Jean Dorothy * (v) (The Five Chesternuts)
33. Teenage Love * (v) (The Five Chesternuts)
34. That's My Desire * (v)

Disc 2:

1. Apache
2. Shadoogie
3. Big Boy
4. Stand Up And Say That
5. The Savage
6. See You In My Drums
7. Baby My Heart (v)
8. Find Me A Golden Street
9. Gonzales
10. Theme from A Filleted Plaice
11. All My Sorrows (v)
12. Nivram
13. Sleepwalk
14. Blue Star
15. My Resistance Is Low
16. Driftin' * (live 1959, as The Drifters)
17. Be Bop A Lula * (live 1959, as The Drifters)
18. Jet Black * (live 1959, as The Drifters)
19. Shazam * (live 1961, Colosseum, Johannesburg, SA)
20. Guitar Boogie * (live 1961, Colosseum, Johannesburg, SA)
21. Sleepwalk * (live 1961, Colosseum, Johannesburg, SA)
22. FBI * (live 1961, Colosseum, Johannesburg, SA)
23. Shazam * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
24. Guitar Boogie * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
25. Stranger On The Shore * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
26. The Frightened City * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
27. Man Of Mystery * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
28. Nivram * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
29. Do You Want To Dance * (v) (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
30. Kon-Tiki * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
31. Midnight * (live 1961/62, Olympia, Paris)
32. Guitar Boogie * (live 1959, BBC Saturday Club, as The Drifters)
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Re: The Boys

Postby Iain Purdon » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:05 pm

Yes, my ancient memory needed a jog! There was a thread here about this double CD when it first came out.
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Re: The Boys

Postby StuartD » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:11 pm

That's the one!!!
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Re: The Boys

Postby Fenderman » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:02 pm

If i remember there was confusion over the actual recording date of the Olympia recording!
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Re: The Boys

Postby GoldenStreet » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:10 pm

It seems that some of the tracks were live / broadcast recordings for Radio Europe 1.

No doubt Didier will be able to elaborate.

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