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Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:18 am
by noelford
UlrichS wrote:Sweet Dreams in the Shadows' version written by Bill McGuffie has a copyright date of 1962 referring to the sheet music.

...could it be that Sweet September is used for a vocal version?

Ulrich


Yes, as I linked to in the post above yours, Ulrich.

Cheers

Noel

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:32 pm
by ecca
I agree with Noel, a very melodic piece indeed, one of my all time favourites.

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:57 pm
by JimN
UlrichS wrote:Quite some time ago there was a sheet music for auction on eBay with the name Sweet September which was written by Bill McGuffie and some others which I could not identify.


http://www.faqs.org/copyright/sweet-september-by-bill-mcguffie-lorraine-phillips-and/

UlrichS wrote:On the sheet music there was a list of recording artists given: The Shadows, Pete Jolly (?) Trio, Bill Evans & his Orchestra and the Bill McGuffie Quartett.
As the Shadows are listed it will be the same composition, but as there are more people listed as writers of the tune could it be that Sweet September is used for a vocal version?


It looks as though the September variation might well be used for the vocal version. another possibility is that the title was changed when the lyrics were added.

The Pete Jolly [correct!] version is ASTOUNDING! Hear it on Spotify or on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbJykUSR9s

Listen to that rhythm guitar all the way through - that's got to be Guitar George...

Best wishes,

JN

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:01 pm
by noelford
Yep! Astounding it certainly is – a musical tour-de force and I really liked it. But, do you know what? - in the end, I still prefer the the simple melodic version as played by the Shads.

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:09 pm
by ecca
Too much messed with.

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:29 pm
by UlrichS
Hi Noel,

Sorry, I completely overlooked your post. See below.


Hi Jim,

Many thanks for the additional info, very welcome.

Ulrich

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:17 pm
by Iain Purdon
Sweet Dreams is all the things that have been said. I'd love to know who arranged it for the Shads and put them through their paces - I'm guessing Norrie Paramor - because the parts are not typical of what the band was playing at the time.

It was also the cause of our downfall at Watford Club a year or two back. The band had been happily jogging along backing successive players with pretty standard material. Then up jumped the next man in to bat. "Sweet Dreams" he cried! A hasty scuffle while Mr Rhythm found a dusty chord chart, a helpful "how does it go" from the drummer, and me desperately trying to hear the far-from-obvious bass line in my head. Let's just say, we could have done with a Paramor of our own that night!

Good number though, when done right...

Iain

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:28 am
by ecca
Most certainly not a busking tune.
Beautiful chord sequences and a subtle modulation.

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:40 am
by captainhaddock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunter ... ental_band)
Whilst doing research into "The Hunters" on Wikipedia, I noticed reference being made to them having recorded a track called "Sweet Dreams" in 1960. Is this the same tune ? or is it the Country track as recorded by Chet Atkins etc

Re: Sweet Dreams

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:50 am
by noelford
Not the Shads' version (or Sweet September). It's this one:

Dave Sampson and the Hunters