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Diamonds effect?

Postby Jetmarvinwelch » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:12 pm

Hi all, what effect pedal would be best for playing diamonds please?
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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby JimN » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:24 am

There are no effects worth the name on Jet and Tony's recording of Diamonds.

Just a tiny bit of studio reverb (as would be used on any musical instrument being recorded).

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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby ecca » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:50 am

Wasn't it recorded on a detuned Fender Jaguar ?
In which case a Roland GR55 would do nicely, even better would be a Roland VG99.
Drop it a semitone, select the relevant model guitar, tweak the EQ, add reverb, away you go .
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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby Iain Purdon » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:57 am

Jet said it was recorded in D on a detuned Gretsch.
He played it on stage in E using a Jaguar.
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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby ecca » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:22 pm

Same difference, the Rolands do a very nice Gretsch in any key you want.
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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby Derek Misselbrook » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:27 pm

When I helped Jet to set up his gear this is the pedal he used :D

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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby anniv 63 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:36 pm

Listening to Jet playing Diamonds/ Big Bad Bass at the N.M.E. Pollwinners Concert of
1964 it sounds as if his Fender Jaguar has the mute under the bridge to slightly dampen/
deaden the sound? Could it also be in Eflat on this performance?

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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby RayL » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:19 pm

If the NME concert was recorded on film rather than video, then pitch changes are possible because the film runs at 24fps and UK video at 25fps. If the film speed is adjusted slightly in the telecine to reduce transfer artifacts the result is a pitch change. I've heard that the well-known clips of Buddy Holly on the Ed Sullivan show (studied avidly by many guitar players) caused much confusion because Buddy is apparently playing in A but if you try and play along it makes your guitar sound out of tune. (must check that for myself sometime)

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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby Iain Purdon » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:03 pm

anniv 63 wrote:Could it also be in Eflat on this performance?


If it was, no wonder he said "Thank Gawd that's over" at the end!
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Re: Diamonds effect?

Postby JimN » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

The NME Pollwinners' Concert of 1964 was videotaped by ABC Weekend Television.

It was broadcast - in an edited form - very shortly after the event. I assume the editing must have consisted of dubbing the sequences for broadcast onto a separate machine, since VT editing was apparently a difficult task in those days.

The same programme ("Big Beat '64") was repeated by ABC Television (in the North and Midlands at the very least) around Christmas 1964.

I recorded the audio on first broadcast. Diamonds was played and reproduced in E min. Big Bad Bass was in A maj.

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