"Tone... does not exist..."

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"Tone... does not exist..."

Postby JimN » 09 Sep 2012, 11:09



Very relevant to Shads fans - listen to how some guitar sounds are only fully formed in their full musical context.

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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby KurtFroberg » 09 Sep 2012, 11:34

So true!
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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby Uncle Fiesta » 09 Sep 2012, 14:16

Very true. I once had a cheap, battered old Yamaha acoustic. I just regarded it as junk really. Then one day I took it into a studio ... added bass, drums, bit of double-tracking and reverb - brilliant. I bought a Martin after that, and it didn't sound any better.

You see people assume that tone is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey ... stuff.
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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby Iain Purdon » 09 Sep 2012, 14:36

Uncle Fiesta, are you Russell Brand posting incognito? :)
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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby Paulps » 09 Sep 2012, 14:37

Don't tell Tony Ramsden

("Tone" as he is known on this site!!)
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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby Tone » 09 Sep 2012, 19:06

Yes, I sure do exist! And I daresay some would say Uncle Fiesta's description applies to me!

Cheers.

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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby abstamaria » 10 Sep 2012, 00:46

Thanks, Jim, all. That was very instructive.

I am taking the video as saying tone by itself is meaningless. It must appreciated in the context of the musical piece. Even that unplugged Telecaster had "tone," uninteresting by itself but perfect in that riff.

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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby hansaustria » 27 Feb 2013, 18:00

JimN wrote:

Very relevant to Shads fans - listen to how some guitar sounds are only fully formed in their full musical context.

JN


Interesting stuff and true! I made a lot of nearly same experiences in my younger days when I
recorded different music styles ( groups / bands ) in my former studio.

The same is with the vocals etc. ........ the effects too - not only with the guitar !


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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby Twang46 » 27 Feb 2013, 18:21

Hmmm

Just checked & it's not April 1st

It's a person's point of view of course but not one that makes any sense to me.

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Re: "Tone... does not exist..."

Postby ecca » 27 Feb 2013, 18:53

Sounds like complete nonsense to me.

I liked him much better when he was Popeye.
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