Hip Hop

[Graham C. Marshall]

Google has one of its special celebratory panels. Forty four years since the birth of Hip-Hop. Apache features.

[PeterfromBerlin]

Hello all,

I'm sorry, but I don't like HipHop, to be honest, I hate it.

[cockroach]

I also don't like rap/hip hop etc

Not wishing to offend anyone, but I regard the emergence of that 'stuff' (I'm sorry , but I don't consider it to be music in the usually accepted sense- melody, harmony etc) as the end of a long tradition and history of great music created by African -Americans...to me it was a devolution , decadence, and a sad end to at least a century of superb black music- jazz. blues, swing, rhythm & blues, soul etc..which influenced music and musicians world wide..

All that wonderful music and creativity- devalued and reduced to monotonous recitals (sometimes with relevant social or political comment- but more often empty bragging or abuse, obscenities, or anti -social and obnoxious ranting ) over a synthetic drum beat...

[jimuc]

As far as I am concerned the word Rap has the third letter of the alphabet missing from the start of it.

[drakula63]

I don't equate Hip-Hop and Rap with music. And I don't personally know anyone else who does either. Not only that, but from what I hear of it - usually blaring out of some idiot's open car window - it's just a violent noise that glamorises knives, guns, violence, drugs, cop killing, misogyny and all manner of other nasty little things that certain people seem to find enthralling.

Some people have said, "Yeah, but listen to Eminem's lyrics." My advice would be, "No, you go and listen to Ray Davies' lyrics! "

[Allclaphands]

Obvious Hip Hop or Rap is not a favourite of mine or the older generation but it as become established
as a new form of music. I can remember back to when Rock & Roll started and the things that where
said in the day by the older generation about it then also into the 60's with the Beatles and the
Stones ect.the same thing was said about that type of music.SO!! When it comes down to it music
fads/trends can be a generational thing and a lot of us on here are of a different generation.

[Pat Seaman]

Careful fellas, you're getting close to dissing my favourite rap star, C-RAP.

[drakula63]

Obvious Hip Hop or Rap is not a favourite of mine or the older generation but it as become established
as a new form of music. I can remember back to when Rock & Roll started and the things that where
said in the day by the older generation about it then also into the 60's with the Beatles and the
Stones ect.the same thing was said about that type of music.SO!! When it comes down to it music
fads/trends can be a generational thing and a lot of us on here are of a different generation.

True to a point. But I grew up in the 1970s and remember the heavy metal, the glam rock, the prog rock, the disco, the punk, the new wave, etc, and with an appreciation of all of it, I still cannot equate Hip-hop and all its associated tangents with proper music. But maybe in 50 years time people will look back at Stormzy and say "What a genius! His second album is a classic!" But I doubt it!


Or am I confusing Hip-Hop or rap with Grime? Grime/Crime, it's all the same to me!!!!

[Uncle Fiesta]

I believe Grime might be closely allied to Gunge, but don't quote me on that!

[MMStingray54]

I think you guys may be confusing gangsta rap with hip hop.

Hip hop started in the 70s, often uses the drum break from James Brown's Funky Drummer (1970), played by Clyde Stubbefield, as its drum part. As with much R and B, soul and funk, there are some fantastic bass parts in hip hop (The Message - Grand Master Flash, Funkin for Jamaica are examples), and as a bass player it has certainly influenced my style.

It has influenced mainstream styles like house, garage and 80s/90s pop.

As I say, I think you're mixing up gangsta rap with hip hop - understandable - but it's like saying you don't like rock and roll because of the MC5 or some of Frank Zappa's more lyrically disgusting period.