Zoom G1Xon

[jimt855]

Good afternoon gentlemen,
My local hifi store has a zoom g3xn for 152€ or the G3. For 125€ Which one would be best and how easy is it to program with the shadows patches from eBay.

Thanks in advance

Jim

[dave robinson]

The cheapest of those two options is the G3 with my patches that are free of charge as well as being true to Paul Rossiter's timings on e TVS3.

[dave robinson]

I still didn't get around to playing with he software, but I am gigging the G1Xon this afternoon at our outdoor event in Chesterfield. I'm using it it because it sounded great at our rehearsal and I can use it on batteries which is handy. I'll take one of the expensive ones just in case, but I do have confidence in it. We'll soon know if it's up to the task.

[jimt855]

Thank you Dave, for your reply once I have purchased this week, may I take you up on your offer of the patches. Very kind of you.

James

[dave robinson]

Thank you Dave, for your reply once I have purchased this week, may I take you up on your offer of the patches. Very kind of you.

James

You need to download the Zoom Edit & Share software and I'll send the patches for you to load.

[dave robinson]

I used the Zoom G1Xon this afternoon and there were other guitarists there who complimented me on the Shadows sound, i imagine their surprise when I explained that I wasn't using the Meazzi or TVS3 that they had expected, they couldn't believe that such a humble device could produce those lovely sounds.
OK I know the purists will scoff but it's an eye opener.

[roger bayliss]

Zoom have a strong following anc make great affordable units , glad to hear it Dzve. I have the G3x and it is very good .

[dave robinson]

I look into these things to try and understand the devices and to see if these budget priced units do a job for us, the guys who like to play clean non fuzzy music, because let's face it all of these units appear to be based on overdriven guitar sounds don't you find ?
It pisses me off that this is all they can see, when in 1965 I wrote the book on it using my Zonk Machine (Northern Tone Bender) when hardly anybody used one. It was new as was the Wah Wah two years later and I used those along with delay and got some interesting sounds and not always pleasant may I add.
When I go into a music shop there are always guys sat playing overdriven thousand notes a minute licks, which to me are meaningless if you can't use them in a listenable piece of a composition. I just want to hear the clean side of a device, because I can overdrive it very easily under my own steam.
So I get these units to see if they will do a job in the clean echo department for what we do and make sure there are enough taps and editing parameters to get a decent Hank tone. Of the ones I have tried I have been impressed and they are all capable of delivering basic correct echo as per the Shadows records - if you know how the set them up.
As proved over and over again by the resulting favourable comments from Shadows music lovers, these Alesis, Zoom, Boss, Roland, Yamaha etc machines sound great and deliver the goods to a high standard and 90% of the guitarists are happy with them. The other 10% demand more accuracy and spend the necessary cash to purchase a real Meazzi or the latest TVS3 or even the older Atlantis, all of which I have proved to myself to do the job perfectly. I've spoken of the fine margins in the differences in sound many times, but to get it 'right' these do matter. It's all down to whether you want to shell out the extra cash that is needed to fulfil that desire and I just wanted to try and help the 90% who are unsure what the capabilities of these budget machines actually is, because the manufacturers demos are never based on our music.
I wanted to illustrate that even with the budget kit, the lower end of it does do the job if you are not particularly able to spend a fortune on an echo box.
I also want it to be understood that if you want perfection, it comes at a price.

[Ian Miller]

Well said Dave, absolutely right!

Ian

[dave robinson]

I have got the Tonelib programme on my laptop but I don't seem to be able to get it to communicate with the G1Xon in order to share my Shadows patches .
If anyone could tell me how to do it I'd very very grateful. My only other option would be to write down the instructions and relevant numbers to allow self programming.
As I have many other options of echo units I will offer the G1Xon and possibly the G3X for sale at what I paid for them, but programmed with my work.