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Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:49 pm
by Fenderman
Looks like their rehearsing something and i'd guess this picture was taken between 1966-68.
What's that at Hank's foot? An effects pedal or just a plug?

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:39 pm
by JimN
Fenderman wrote:Looks like their rehearsing something and i'd guess this picture was taken between 1966-68.
What's that at Hank's foot? An effects pedal or just a plug?


It looks like a mains distribution board with four plugs connected.

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:18 am
by RogerCook
Waiting for Rosie sounds a bit "Gretschy" so maybe running through that before recording.

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:47 pm
by Iain Purdon
I agree it is a staged photo but the cables and amps suggest it was taken during a session or rehearsal.

Why would it be Waiting For Rosie though? Brian is using brushes on that track and I can hear some distinctive Burnsiness in the lead. On the other hand Bruce is certainly playing electric rhythm on it and John could easily be using a Fender bass (although I wonder what the rules were about NOT using Burns guitars!)

The video of WFR does indeed include a similar shot but it also includes loads of photos that were certainly not taken when it was recorded, so it could be a red herring.

So back to the question. I have still not come up with a Shads number that sounds like it was done with that gear!

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:30 pm
by StuartD
Hi

It is no secret that John preferred the Fender Bass.

I don't know how often he used it in the studio but i would suspect quite a lot in the last 18 months before they split up. He told me that he used to use it straight into the desk in later years. The Burns was well knackered by then.

Regards

Stuart

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:15 pm
by Iain Purdon
StuartD wrote:Hi
It is no secret that John preferred the Fender Bass.
I don't know how often he used it in the studio but i would suspect quite a lot in the last 18 months before they split up. He told me that he used to use it straight into the desk in later years. The Burns was well knackered by then.
Regards
Stuart

If that is indeed what happened, then the famous Burns bass "clack" (as Chris Jarvis used to call it) might also have been made on a Fender Jazz bass. Chris always thought John's recipe was to pick the Burns bass near the neck using the Neck and Middle Pickups. But a J-bass with both pickups engaged, although not the same, isn't far off.

From the "Jigsaw" LP, I'm thinking Tennessee Waltz, Stardust, Semi-Detached S Mr J, Friday on my Mind, With a Hmm-hmm, Green Eyes. Some could be Burns, others Fender. What do you think?

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:51 pm
by bor64
Bruce Marvin has still the Burns logo....maybe that's a indicator of timespan?

Cheers Rob

Re: A question for the Shads detectives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:18 pm
by StuartD
Iain Purdon wrote:If that is indeed what happened, then the famous Burns bass "clack" (as Chris Jarvis used to call it) might also have been made on a Fender Jazz bass. Chris always thought John's recipe was to pick the Burns bass near the neck using the Neck and Middle Pickups. But a J-bass with both pickups engaged, although not the same, isn't far off.

From the "Jigsaw" LP, I'm thinking Tennessee Waltz, Stardust, Semi-Detached S Mr J, Friday on my Mind, With a Hmm-hmm, Green Eyes. Some could be Burns, others Fender. What do you think?


Hi Ian

Very possible. The sound on Don't forget to catch me is very clicky. Going straight into the desk made a massive difference. On Love Truth and Emily Stone, I understand it was Herbie Flowers on bass and that has the clicky sound. Herbie used a Jazz Bass koi NI