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Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:08 pm
by Paulps
Is this the best, solid body 12 string available?
What gauge strings should be on it?
Where can I get a decent solid case for one?
Does a green one sound better than the red? (OK, just kidding with that, or does it make a difference?)

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:12 pm
by Bojan
Yes, I would say it is.

Read this text:

http://www.burnsguitars.com/12string.html

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:32 pm
by Nick Allan
I would agree with Bojan, I think it is the best available.

I have a custom version, but I understand Barry may be planning a Chinese built Apache version with the usual trisonic pickups, I believe in greenburst (with tremolo) if there is enough interest. Price I believe will be around £1,500 but don't quote me. What Hank is playing on the current tour is a custom version of that.

Brilliant guitars, but the new ones I am sure will be better than the existing club models - just look at the Apache.

All the best, Nick.

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:33 pm
by Nick Allan
Oh by the way, they come with 10's.

Nick.

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:32 pm
by JimN
Paulps wrote:What gauge strings should be on it?


I get good results on my Fender Electric XII (Jazzmaster shape, "hockey stick" headstock) using a set of standard "slinky" 1-46 (plain third) as the main set, and then supplement with custom gauge strings:

e - 0.010"
B - 0.013"
G (octave) - 0.008"
D - 0.011"
A - 0.016"
E - 0.24" (w).

JN

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:13 pm
by ernie1958
JimN wrote:
Paulps wrote:What gauge strings should be on it?


I get good results on my Fender Electric XII (Jazzmaster shape, "hockey stick" headstock) using a set of standard "slinky" 1-46 (plain third) as the main set, and then supplement with custom gauge strings:

e - 0.010"
B - 0.013"
G (octave) - 0.008"
D - 0.011"
A - 0.016"
E - 0.24" (w).

JN


;) I totally agree with you Jim..our rhythm guitarist has an original 60's Fender XII and it sounds awesome,maybe a bit different compared
to the Burns double-six but just as usefull when it comes to a certain backing sound some tunes need imo.. :thumbup:

Ernie

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:11 pm
by Bojan
A greenburst Apache 12-string with tremolo and gold hardware must be an awesome guitar! I for one would be interested! But I think £1,500 is rather steep, first of all because you can get a regular Burns 12-string for only £599 (with case), and second because for that kind of money you can buy a mint Rickenbacker 360/12 . . . and that is truly a magnificent beast -- absolutely the big daddy of 12-string guitars!! There is one on Ebay right now going for £1,400 . . .

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rickenbacker-360- ... 286.c0.m14

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:52 pm
by Nick Allan
But nothing like as easy to play as a Burns.

I don't think that £1,500 is too steep for what you get, by comparison to the club version, and you get a reliable tremolo too.

Regards, Nick.

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:36 pm
by Paulps
£1,500.00 is out of my reach, but a normal Strat 12 string seems to be about £550.00. The Burns I can get for £450.00. Is the Strat worth the extra £100.00?

Re: Burns Double Six

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:10 pm
by Bojan
Paul, if you can get £450 for a Burns 12-string Club model, I think that's a great price. Go for it!

Nick, I'm sure the playability of both Burns 12-string models is great. I am not doubting that. But, if you can get the Club model for £450, it turns out that the difference in price between the Apache 12-string and the Club 12-string is £1,050 !!!! :o For that difference alone you could buy a new Burns Marvin, or even a new Burns Apache !!! I would really like to know what it is that you get in the Apache 12-string that you don't get in the Club 12-string that is worth £1,050 !!

Regards,
Bojan