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Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 14 Apr 2010, 21:19
by alanbakewell
Can anybody tell me why the Standard Strat block is tapered and the Vintage block is "full" sized?

I can't see that operating space is an issue.

Or am I missing something?

Cheers, Alan.
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Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 14 Apr 2010, 21:21
by alanbakewell
I couldn't post two pictures so here's the Vintage block for comparison.
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Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 14 Apr 2010, 22:17
by Amanda
Hi Alan,

Perhaps they are getting stingy with the steel!

Think of the cost already my boy!

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 14 Apr 2010, 22:35
by ecca
It can only be sheer clearance if you want to really wang the trem down.

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 15 Apr 2010, 07:13
by RUSSET
I presume you mean the Standard USA Strat. I would guess that it allows for extreme 'Guitar God' whammy bar abuse, being a more modern feature. They are more easy to manufacture too, being a compound of sintered (powdered) steel & some kind of resin, & therefore easy to make in a mould. Although I have a Standard USA Strat, which sounds really good, I still prefer my vintage-style models with a proper milled steel block.

Tony.

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 15 Apr 2010, 08:13
by alanbakewell
Yes Tony, specifically my 50th anniversary Strat. I'm having a rolled steel block made for it. I'm very pleased with the Callaham block I fitted to my CS Strat ( vintage type ), and, having removed the block from my 50th anniversary, couldn't see any difference in the space it has to operate in. So, using the "more mass the better" principle I thought I might have it made to the vintage specifications. Taking into account it being left handed and fitting the standard Strat.

One major improvement with a rolled steel block that I've found after four years is, no wobbly tremolo arm. I should say that I also use a stainless steel tremolo arm.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers, Alan.

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 16 Apr 2010, 07:06
by RUSSET
Hi Alan,
I guess if you have a block that has more or less the same hardness as the arm, they wont wear each other out. I reckon the US Standard Strat's 'Sintered' block is probably a little less hard than the arm & will wear eventually, although mine hasn't yet, but I don't play it anywhere near as much as my 'Vintage' Fiesta Reds. I bought a Squier 'Biffy Clyro' F.Red Strat a few months ago, & although everything about it was really good for a £250 guitar, the Trem block was the usual thin soft Squier budget job, which is a real shame. Needless to say it went wobbly within a couple of weeks, so I replaced it with a full-size steel block. It has been superb ever since, & although I wouldn't say it made a great deal of difference to the tone (it had a great tone anyway), the trem arm is perfect with no wobbles at all.

Tony.

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:00
by JimN
The tendency of (some) Stratocaster tremolo arms to wear loose in their threaded sockets has been driving me mad since I got my first example - new - in 1975. That was a later post-CBS model with the one-piece cast Mazak block, and whilst it was easy to pack the threads (with plumber's tape or cotton thread), it seemed to me that this should not be necessary and that Fender really should have got it right by now.

Mind you, as others say, on the proper American-made unit with the steel block (as fitted to the American Vintage Reissue series), this problem seems not to come up at all. The two '62 VRIs I bought in 2007 have never suffered from it.

JN

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 16 Apr 2010, 15:15
by Amanda
Hi,

If you want a steel trem block made for a strat, this person is the man:

Kevin Hurley [kevin AT khurley.orangehome.co.uk] (remove the AT and replace with @

Tell him what guitar you have and the string spacing and he will make you one.

Fast service, I ordered one on Thursday last week it arrived Monday.

Great Price, mine was £20 plus postage, made from cold rolled bright 1018 steel if I remember correctly!

Amanda

Re: Standard Strat Tremolo Block

PostPosted: 16 Apr 2010, 16:10
by ecca
Will you be playing it on Tuesday Amararararararanda ?