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Hi

Sorry if itsa lame question ?

I did have a look under the C,Tand L but did not find.

I am looking for the 'correct' Tab for Apache. (The reason I ask here is because now have 2 and they are different.)

Any information will be appreciated and thanks in dadvance.

Regards.

I can't help with the tab, but I find that using your own tabs (ears) is a good way to work things out and it's more rewarding.
From what I have seen when folks have learned from tabs, it's often inaccurate. I have watched Hank play over the years and where he plays any given part can vary from concert to concert, so I believe that your ears are the best tool, along with putting in time and effort. Even he doesn't play the stuff in the same position every time, so what are the use of tabs other than a vague guide. Granted it's a start, but no more than that.
An observation that I made over the years is that I have yet to see a player who relies on tabs put in a performance at any given time. The good players I know and see on a regular basis all listened to the tracks and worked them out for themselves, the latest of those being Danny Martin who recently played lead guitar in Bruce's Shadows at Shadowmania. I cannot give a better example than that. As for the 'tab' players ? They were in the audience.

I quite agree. Tab is only helpful as an idea but how you finger something is really up to you. There are good ways and bad ways. Best thing any guitarist can do is learn to play major, minor and chromatic scales in any key and learn all the popular chord shapes. That'll give you plenty of insight into where your fingers would benefit from being.

Thank you for you input, which has been noted and gratefully received.

If I may open the can of worms ?..........

I understand that tabs may differ for the same song and people play in different ways. The tabs will help a novice to learn the skills mentioned above.

A ' vague guide '/aide-mémoire ie a tab will assist me in my hobby but it is confusing if they all differ. Just looking for the right tab for a tune to try and learn. Please try and look at it through my eyes and one day I might be able to look at it through yours..........

In any event kind regards.

I have nothing more to add, other than it takes dedication rather than tab.

Very few of the "free" tabs I have seen are "correct" and some of the ones you pay for may not be the exact version you are looking for. As Dave says, Hank frequently played things slightly differently so what is correct anyway? Also one of the downsides of tab is that generally it does not give you any timing or rhythm information (I have seen tab that uses note stems and tails as in notation to do this).

Personally, if I find something difficult to work out, I will try to write out in tab and standard musical notation. Sometimes this involves using software to slow down the phrases in question. There is software available that will allow you to write tab and notation and will replay the score as Midi so you can check you have it right. I use GuitarPro but TuxGuitar does this too and is free. There are lots of versions of Apache on the Guitar pro tab sharing website but I don't know how good they are - http://www.gprotab.net/search_tabs.php? ... che&page=1 - . While my sight reading is not good enough to play from the dots, a hard copy score does help me find my way through some of the tunes that I'm less familiar with.

So, by all means use a tab as a starting point but let your ears be the judge of what is the right thing to play. And as Iain says, if you learn all the scales and chords in different positions all over the fingerboard it will all become a lot less mysterious!

My advice to anyone who wants to get the most out of playing guitar is to learn your fretboard. I really dislike tabs because, although they may help you figure out the notes quickly in the short term, they can easily become a crutch. Learn your fretboard and you will be able to find the notes a lot more easily and quickly. Knowing scales helps, too, and chords are really important. It astonishes me how many beginners want to go straight into playing lead without bothering with chords. It's a fatal mistake because knowing chords and the individual notes that make them up is a very important aspect of melody playing skill.

David, I liken tabs to painting by numbers and I've never seen a good painting produced by that method! 'Apache' has a pretty simple melody. Grab your guitar and find the notes. The satisfaction achieved when you have done it will encourage you no end.

Hi
I use to send TAB:s for free for Roger Paulssons BT, and I must say it is a lot of people asking for them. We must understand that there is a lot of "musician" who can not take out the tunes by themself. I am hoping that I can give them more pleasure by doing this.
/Bertil

David,

Come along to the Sussex Club at Seaford. You'll learn more from watching and speaking to other players than learning from Tabs.

Kind regards,

Terry (Tab my user name is taken from my initials - nothing to do with tablature)

Hi! In case this helps, here is a copy of a combination sheet music/guitar tab version of Apache. I am a beginner and I don't really know anything except that all the advice the gentlemen gave you is correct, and it is working for me as I struggle through this maze of information. If these tabs are incorrect, then please excuse me for posting them. I just wanted to share a copy of what I have, but I don't know if they're correct.

This sheet music came with no publication credits; I didn't erase it.

Kind regards,
Donna