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A somewhat bizarre vocal version of FBI, performed by CR during an ATV Special in May 1967, at 36:34...



Bill

Slight correction, it actually starts at 28:25.

Ever wish you could un-hear something?

(It was quite kind of Les Dawson to fill in for Hank though.)

Have to confess I actually quite like it. The guitar solo left something to be desired though!

I'm sure I first heard Cliff sing a version of FBI with lyrics as early as 1962, on the Cliff / Shadows Radio Luxembourg Sunday night fifteen minute programme they used to do.

Somehow, I doubt the words were written by 'Peter Gormley'!

Bill

Always thought the shads wrote FBI,how did gormleys name end up on it ?

Gary Allen wrote:Always thought the shads wrote FBI,how did gormleys name end up on it ?

Same as "Jon Allen" (Shotgun) and "Robin McGlynn" (Gonzales) on other compositions published (or perhaps just registered) between the older Belinda publishing contract and the newer Shadows Music set-up.

The really odd thing is that the B-side of FBI (ie, Midnight) was obviously released simultaneously, but was credited "Marvin - Welch" and to Shadows Music.

Even odder: Gonzales was released quite late in 1961, well after the new publishing company was in operation.

Mysteriously, Peter Gormley's name also turned up as joint composer, with Hank and Bruce, of We Say Yeah from The Young Ones, as far as I can tell his only other writer credit. One Jim Goff, oddly, also gained a single composer credit on Back Home (also a 1961 Shadows Music publication.)

Bill

'Jim Goff' was an artist/cartoonist-friend of The Shadows. I think (without checking) he had a credit for the front cover of Jigsaw. He also drew (and was credited for) a cartoon on a piece of Shadows' sheet music which I used to own...of The Three Cabelleros. I think there was some debate about this a few years ago. As no one could recall any connection between The Shads and this song - it was concluded that it was supposed to be Las Tres Carebelas from the Los Shadows EP - attributed to The Shadows in error by the publishing company. Not sure how much (if any!) input he had into Back Home.
I'm not sure about 'Jon Allen' and 'Robin McGlynn' - but always wondered whether they felt they owed Peter Gormley some money which he wouldn't normally accept; he famously worked as their manager without a contract - at least for the first year/few years. Similarly Norrie Paramor - I find it hard to believe that he earned the writing credit for Bongo Blues Did he really notate the whole piece as he would have one of his orchestral arrangements? Or get another guitar band to make an acetate for The Shads to learn?

And can anyone shed any light on 'Petrina Lordan'? It's always seemed extremely unlikely to me that Jerry should marry a woman with the same flair/genius for composing instrumental melodies (and, later, song lyrics) as him! Of the late '60s 'Lordan' co-writes (e.g. Conversations, Morning Star, Sacha, Good Times, High Sierra, Love, Truth and Emily Stone, Monday Comes Too Soon) I'm not sure which are Jerry and which are Petrina. I heard a radio programme (Sound of the Sixties) about 35 years ago in which Jerry said he wrote Conversations with Roger Cook and Roger Greenaway...no mention of Petrina...

Moderne wrote:... Similarly Norrie Paramor - I find it hard to believe that he earned the writing credit for Bongo Blues Did he really notate the whole piece as he would have one of his orchestral arrangements? Or get another guitar band to make an acetate for The Shads to learn?

Why not? He also co-wrote the Cliff songs "A Voice In The Wilderness' and 'Love' from this movie and he was involved with his Orchestra.

Moderne wrote:And can anyone shed any light on 'Petrina Lordan'? It's always seemed extremely unlikely to me that Jerry should marry a woman with the same flair/genius for composing instrumental melodies (and, later, song lyrics) as him! Of the late '60s 'Lordan' co-writes (e.g. Conversations, Morning Star, Sacha, Good Times, High Sierra, Love, Truth and Emily Stone, Monday Comes Too Soon) I'm not sure which are Jerry and which are Petrina. I heard a radio programme (Sound of the Sixties) about 35 years ago in which Jerry said he wrote Conversations with Roger Cook and Roger Greenaway...no mention of Petrina...

Jerry married Petrina in 1963 (divorced in 1974) and I've read that they shared the same interest in music.
Of the songs you mention only High Sierra is co-written by Petrina, all others are by Jerry.
The B.M.I. lists 34 compositions registered for Petrina, of which 22 are in collaboration with other writers, among them Hank Marvin, John Farrar and Alan Tarney. Performers of her compositions include Cliff, Olivia Newton-John and Elaine Page. I think if this would have been Jerry it would have been known.

Ulrich