AC15 AC30 Burns

[JimN]

Yes - the AC30 (both early types) were available in 1961.

The book "The Shadows - By Themselves" (op cit) mentions the top-boost unit in the back of the amp. That would be the mainstream 6-input, 3-channel AC30 Twin and not the earler (and experimental) 4-input + EF86 model, which reportedly had so much treble that it didn't need a top-boost.

The TB unit has been claimed to have been designed as a measure to restore the brilliance found in the EF86-equipped amp but somewhat lacking in the AC30 Twin Normal.

So... when Hank describes the TB-in-the-back (which he does in that 1961 book), he is talking about a six-input AC30.

Elementary...

JN

[phil kelly]

Hi Jim,
Yes certainly the ac34 has enough top end but its not the " stinging strip off the back wall wallpaper " top end associated with the 6 input top boosted variants ,even more desirable is the great mid range projection inherent due to the ef86 based circuit, which you can hear on those earliest nos,
Switching out the brilliance switch still leaves more clarity than a standard non top boost ac30/6 in the normal channel, so it will give a very good wonderful land tone,
regards,
Phil.

[chas]

That reminds me, I was thinking just recently that although 'Dance with The Shadows' is generally considered to be a Burns played album, and though I haven't listened to it recently, I would agree - except I always felt that Chatanooga had more of a Strat sound - anyone any thoughts on this?

Chas.

[Bojan]

OK, now I realized that I have actually asked the wrong question. When I said AC15 I really meant an amp (15W or 30W) based on a EF86 unit, and when I said AC30 I actually meant without the EF86, so that would presumably be referring to the 6-input AC30 Twin . . .

Sorry for creating the confusion, but does my original question make more sense now?

Which of the above Shadows songs were recorded with the EF86 sound and which were without it -- that is basically my question.

[JimN]

That reminds me, I was thinking just recently that although 'Dance with The Shadows' is generally considered to be a Burns played album, and though I haven't listened to it recently, I would agree - except I always felt that Chatanooga had more of a Strat sound - anyone any thoughts on this?
Chas.

If you want, I can give the recording date for each song on the album...

JN

[roger bayliss]

Bojan is this any use on the TVS site Amplifiers used by The Shadows ?

http://www.tvsspecialtyproducts.com/page8.htm

[Bojan]

Bojan is this any use on the TVS site Amplifiers used by The Shadows ?

http://www.tvsspecialtyproducts.com/page8.htm

Thanks Roger, it does help a lot.

[chas]

That reminds me, I was thinking just recently that although 'Dance with The Shadows' is generally considered to be a Burns played album, and though I haven't listened to it recently, I would agree - except I always felt that Chatanooga had more of a Strat sound - anyone any thoughts on this?
Chas.

If you want, I can give the recording date for each song on the album...

JN

Hi Jim - please do, that would be interesting. Chas.

[Bojan]

OK, let me rephrase my original question: which Shadows recordings contain the "EF86 sound" on lead guitar, and when did Shadows recordings stop having the EF86 sound? (Obviously, we are talking about the "Strat period" because as far as I know, there are no "Burns period" recordings utilizing the EF86 units . . . or were there?)

So, in that light, for example, does Dance On contain EF86, and what about Some Are Lonely? And what about South of the Border? . . . Were Foot Tapper, The Breeze and I and Atlantis all recorded on non-EF86 units?

I think now my question makes more sense and is probably more difficult to answer, because this is not always easy to tell by the guitar tone itself.

[Trayc]

South Of The Border: recorded 12th April 1962. Probably the last Shads recording to feature Jet Harris. AC30 + TB.

[JN[/quote]

I have watched with interest for months before joining this site and I am sure someone said that the last recording with Jet Harris was
Wonderful Land ?? can someone clear this up for me.
Trayc