John Williams at the BBC

[drakula63]

... I had heard that he had contributed some rhythm guitar to a Shads recording...

You mean "Don't Cry For Me Argentina"?

Ulrich

You said it, not me!

(To be honest, I thought it was a different one...)

[iefje]

... I had heard that he had contributed some rhythm guitar to a Shads recording...

You mean "Don't Cry For Me Argentina"?

Ulrich

You said it, not me!

(To be honest, I thought it was a different one...)

It was actually Clive Hicks who contributed acoustic rhythm guitar to the opening of "Don't Cry For Me Argentina". The single/album version that is.

[Iain Purdon]

And while we're at it with Sky folk, Steve Gray worked with Brian Bennett and Dave Richmond, while Herbie Flowers played bass tracks on Shades of Rock and Guitar Syndicate. Sky and The Shadows were both in and out of the studios a lot in the same period.

[cockroach]

OK, I was born and bred in the UK, but as an Aussie resident and naturalised Aussie for many years, I am going to blow the trumpet..

Three of the finest musicians in our lifetimes, who also happen to be guitarists...

John Williams

Tommy Emmanuel

The late Kevin Peek..

Not all of the best players are American!! (although I still love Chet, Les Paul, Merle Travis and many others)

And I also salute superb British players such as Martin Taylor, Richard Smith, and of course dear old Hank (although I'm not sure if he has been naturalised as a Aussie since he emigrated !)

[Iain Purdon]

It was actually Clive Hicks who contributed acoustic rhythm guitar to the opening of "Don't Cry For Me Argentina". The single/album version that is.

... which fits. There was a session band called WASP, consisting of Brian Bennett (drums), Dave Richmond (bass), Steve Gray (keyboards), Duncan Lamont (sax and reeds) and Clive Hicks (guitars). They were all over the studios in those days and it would have been easy to collar one of them to lay down a part if the official player was absent. I have checked Malcolm Campbell's "Pocket Guide to Shadows Music". This is what he says about the public reaction to their live tour version of Don't Cry For Me Argentina ...

Audience response was indeed dramatic, with people continually yelling out “Record it!” Immediately following their 1978 tour, the group did just that. Shortly after completing the session, Hank and Bruce departed on vacation. It was felt that ARGENTINA was too long and somehow lacked the feeling of the live version. The answer was to edit the track down and mix in some applause. Apparently much of the task fell to Brian Bennett, who was still in the UK! He supervised the project along with Brian Goode at Abbey Road Studios. The applause on the disc was actually from Thank You Very Much! Clive Hicks guested to provide additional rhythm guitar in the opening bars.

Malcolm is an impeccable researcher and I'm happy to take his version as true.

[MikeAB]

That wretched 'Cliff' applause (also used elsewhere for Shads concert recordings I've always thought) yet again!? Not very 'Shadows' !?

[Iain Purdon]

Oh I don't know. "Thank You Very Much" was a Cliff/Shadows reunion so it was Shadows applause too.

[MikeAB]

I might well be imagining the whole thing but there seems to me to be an oft-repeated, irritating applause segment where the ladies are cheering and this makes it instantly recognisable as from a different concert - I'm not sure that applies to Argentina though and I suppose if I'm right it's simply a case of too much fan knowledge. My Wife is not impressed with this level of 'sad' - unsurprisingly.

[JimN]

It was actually Clive Hicks who contributed acoustic rhythm guitar to the opening of "Don't Cry For Me Argentina". The single/album version that is.

... which fits. There was a session band called WASP, consisting of Brian Bennett (drums), Dave Richmond (bass), Steve Gray (keyboards), Duncan Lamont (sax and reeds) and Clive Hicks (guitars). They were all over the studios in those days and it would have been easy to collar one of them to lay down a part if the official player was absent. I have checked Malcolm Campbell's "Pocket Guide to Shadows Music". This is what he says about the public reaction to their live tour version of Don't Cry For Me Argentina ...

Audience response was indeed dramatic, with people continually yelling out “Record it!” Immediately following their 1978 tour, the group did just that. Shortly after completing the session, Hank and Bruce departed on vacation. It was felt that ARGENTINA was too long and somehow lacked the feeling of the live version. The answer was to edit the track down and mix in some applause. Apparently much of the task fell to Brian Bennett, who was still in the UK! He supervised the project along with Brian Goode at Abbey Road Studios. The applause on the disc was actually from Thank You Very Much! Clive Hicks guested to provide additional rhythm guitar in the opening bars.

Malcolm is an impeccable researcher and I'm happy to take his version as true.

The applause at the beginning of Shadowmix is also taken from the 1978 Palladium season, as is the distorted voice (Cliff Richard) saying: "Ladies and gentlemen... it's The Shadows!".

That phrase (within a longer sentence) was used on the "Thank You Very Much" LP/CD.

[drakula63]

It was actually Clive Hicks who contributed acoustic rhythm guitar to the opening of "Don't Cry For Me Argentina". The single/album version that is.

... which fits. There was a session band called WASP, consisting of Brian Bennett (drums), Dave Richmond (bass), Steve Gray (keyboards), Duncan Lamont (sax and reeds) and Clive Hicks (guitars). They were all over the studios in those days and it would have been easy to collar one of them to lay down a part if the official player was absent. I have checked Malcolm Campbell's "Pocket Guide to Shadows Music". This is what he says about the public reaction to their live tour version of Don't Cry For Me Argentina ...

Audience response was indeed dramatic, with people continually yelling out “Record it!” Immediately following their 1978 tour, the group did just that. Shortly after completing the session, Hank and Bruce departed on vacation. It was felt that ARGENTINA was too long and somehow lacked the feeling of the live version. The answer was to edit the track down and mix in some applause. Apparently much of the task fell to Brian Bennett, who was still in the UK! He supervised the project along with Brian Goode at Abbey Road Studios. The applause on the disc was actually from Thank You Very Much! Clive Hicks guested to provide additional rhythm guitar in the opening bars.

Malcolm is an impeccable researcher and I'm happy to take his version as true.

Also known as Wally Asp. Their music (they took it in turns to write) was featured on such seminal '70s shows as The Sweeney. Also the theme to the 1974 BBC TV serial 'Melissa' (Gray, EMI 2253) which was, according to Steve, released too late for it to capitalize on its weekly TV exposure!

Watched the John Williams documentary again a couple of hours ago on iPlayer. Breathtaking stuff.