FLINGEL BUNT WITH THE STRYMON VOLANTE

[dave robinson]

Thanks for that Paul. There's quite a bit of scope on the Volante to add saturation to the point of what you can hear on my recording which is not something you would use too much as it's distortion, but with the mechanics & wear knobs you can achieve the anomolies to a certain degree which is useful. The three different types of machine are useful too, as it replicates the Binson drum, Tape echo and Revox/Studer quality clean tape simulation, so you have it across the spectrum to a degree. There's also the low cut knob for the echo that sharpens up the repeat, giving it a narrower bandwidth. There's also adjustments to the head spacings too, with the option of the standard Binson equi- distant four heads, or triplets and two others. All in all a very good sounding and pleasing machine to have at the price point. I will compare it to my Klemt Echolette and IC-400 Copicat to compare the guitar tone, but I am more than happy with it for now. If you've seen the manual, you'll understand that any of the heads can be reduced to 50% level if desired and that feedback is selectable on any number of them.
That said I'd still like to have another TVS3 to play with now my hearing problems have been addressed, maybe one day. I enjoy playing around with any gear I can get my hands on and I had an hour listening to some of your TVS jukebox today which was great. We planned to visit Australia this year, but it's on hold for obvious reasons, but I want to come and see you and it will happen.

[fenderplucker]

Hi Dave,

It would be great to be able to catch up and have a chat . I was likewise hoping to visit the UK last year and meet up with a few people, but it got hit on the head with covid. Hopefully the vaccines or some other cure will let us get back to some form of normality in the not too distant future.

i have sent you a pm regarding a possible second hand TVS3.

Regards,

Paul.

[dave robinson]

Here's a re-take of Flingel Bunt having studied the original more closely and taking Paul Rossiter's advice.


https://soundcloud.com/dave-robinson-85 ... -corrected

[roger bayliss]

Dave that sounds better to my ears.

The volume of the 4 heads can be halved on the Volante by pressing the buttons, however using MIDI it is possible to change the head volume of individual heads by sending a CC message 0 - 127 on the appropriate CC command numbers. The head spacing is adjustable as Dave says with a knob on the Volante , and have to use your ears and judgement.

You can adjust most of the setting using MIDI control, but appears the head spacing can only be adjusted in so far as selecteing the spacings available on front panel. There are 4 heads and each selectable for on or off and feedback whether that head is on or not.

There are only 8 user memory slots on front panel , but by using MIDI , that can be extended to 300 presets (in 3 banks) .

I have a Volante and am going to try MIDI control when I get my MIDI controller pedal in near future. I have selected the Morningstar MC6 as my choice of MIDI controller. Having watched a few videos on it , MICI looks quite easy.

[dave robinson]

I'd be interested to know to what extent the midi capabilities contribute to getting more out of this machine. Those head levels sound interesting.

[roger bayliss]

I'd be interested to know to what extent the midi capabilities contribute to getting more out of this machine. Those head levels sound interesting.

That is the main interest I have Dave and also accessing up to 300 user presets

I think maybe best way to implement it would be to access a preset position and sent a number of CC messages to program the unit for a certain sound eg Peace Pipe . Each button on the MIDI controller would be named eg Peace Pipe and on hitting the button on MIDI controller the Volante would jump to a user preset and optionally send the right CC messages for the Volante to be configured for that particular sound. This could be done with a single press to move to Preset position then double tap to load in CC messages . The MIDI unit I want allows you to name presets so easy to see what patch you are accessing.

[Garystrat]

This link may be of help, what it seems to be saying is that you configure the Volante manually, then send those settings to one of the presets where the MIDI can save and recall them.

https://www.strymon.net/faq/how-can-i-c ... with-midi/

It follows the usual MIDI protocol of saving and storing in banks of up to 127 presets due to MIDI limitations, bank change management is via pressing and holding the tap foot switch whilst connecting power supply, in practice most users would probably find one bank more than enough. I think one would want to backup and load presets via the computer (USB - Stryman “Preset Librarian” software) and use a dedicated controller for in performance selection, which is basically what happens in other units where switching is integrated.

It’s possible to do the MIDI switching directly via some DAWs, whilst this link refers directly to controlling Helix Native plug-in by MIDI, it refers to the process for several well known DAWs and the principal should be very similar:

https://line6.com/support/page/kb/recor ... -daw-r900/

For those not familiar with the playback/feedback head combinations the Volante provides, this is a really good demo that I came cross:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOqzVSz8PW4

[roger bayliss]

Cheers Gary for info had seen the Stymon info , I love the dotted eight delays a lot .

[Iain Purdon]

Here's a re-take of Flingel Bunt having studied the original more closely and taking Paul Rossiter's advice.
https://soundcloud.com/dave-robinson-856744616/flingel-bunt-corrected

In some ways closer, definitely. Maybe now a bit over-distorted? Perhaps split the difference with the earlier version? The grunt echo is great, although I think the original has more repeats than two, fading though they are. I'm enjoying this!

[phil kelly]

1st version better but needs more feedback, 2nd version is way ott with echo vol, subtle is the word here, echo sounds spitty by comparison to the record, reminds me of an amtech,
guitar tone on both versions two thin and trebly,
i do think most are jumping to the conclusion of a long tom being used on this track because of the said picture ? maybe it was but if yes a longtom having owned several does not sound like the above,
the model 2 still comes to mind,
phil